how different would part 5 be viewed if it was Jason

and not Roy doing the killings?

Would it be liked more?

where would it be in the rankings?

Yes it would have lol

Jason Voorhees wrote:Yes it would have lol

ll straight to the point

Yes, almost assuredly yes. I would argue that the only reason most people don't like it is because it's Roy and not Jason. A high body count, creative kills, and doesn't appear to be as butchered by the MPAA as some of the other films. It's a fun little movie that has pretty much everything you look for in a slasher film, completely dismissed and shat on because of a horrible choice for a twist ending. It's a shame really.

Like I've said a few times now though, 5 was the first Friday film I saw, so I don't have the bias against 5 that a lot of people do. Didn't even understand it wasn't actually Jason the first time I watched it. Ironically, JGTH would piss me off for a lot of similar reasons to why 5 pissed so many people off, so I guess it's all a matter of perspective.

People would have lined up for a couple city blocks to see this movie if it was Jason. Throw in Jason with the creative kills and the whole "Tina is in the movie" thing, and it would have been a HUGE seller.

I think it would have but Part 6 wouldn't have had the success it did. Like Halloween III, Part 5 strayed a little and tried to go in a somewhat different direction. The bad reception it received opened the door for Jason's triumphant return, as was Season of the Witch paved the way for Michael's return. Neither intended for that result, but it showed how the horror fans like to stay with their tried and true villains. I actually liked Part 5 and Season of the Witch myself, but was glad to see both franchises continue with their main villains. In almost every major franchise, there is one that isn't received as well as the others and basically considered a space filler. You take it along with the ones you like better simply because they are attached to that franchise. But if it had been Jason actually doing the killing, they would have had to mix up the script a bit to explain him. Roy did his best, but in the end, there is only one Jason vorhees. It doesn't hurt to give him a break though

SonofOdin6039 wrote:I think it would have but Part 6 wouldn't have had the success it did. Like Halloween III, Part 5 strayed a little and tried to go in a somewhat different direction. The bad reception it received opened the door for Jason's triumphant return, as was Season of the Witch paved the way for Michael's return. Neither intended for that result, but it showed how the horror fans like to stay with their tried and true villains. I actually liked Part 5 and Season of the Witch myself, but was glad to see both franchises continue with their main villains. In almost every major franchise, there is one that isn't received as well as the others and basically considered a space filler. You take it along with the ones you like better simply because they are attached to that franchise. But if it had been Jason actually doing the killing, they would have had to mix up the script a bit to explain him. Roy did his best, but in the end, there is only one Jason vorhees. It doesn't hurt to give him a break though

But a break of 14 years is just a little too long.

Part V def gave more rise to the whole "Copy-Cat" sub-genre just look at my Bloody Valentines from 1981, and then also look at Scream.

For me if you gonna give us three films (Part 2-4) with a definitive killer and then give us a copycat ofcourse it's gonna do very badly and that's why it's having a cult following now OR that people don't like Jason and view Roy as a "Superior" character.

But overall and given fact that if it was Tom Morga as Jason it def would have gave more profit.

Jason Voorhees wrote:Part V def gave more rise to the whole "Copy-Cat" sub-genre just look at my Bloody Valentines from 1981, and then also look at Scream.

For me if you gonna give us three films (Part 2-4) with a definitive killer and then give us a copycat ofcourse it's gonna do very badly and that's why it's having a cult following now OR that people don't like Jason and view Roy as a "Superior" character.

But overall and given fact that if it was Tom Morga as Jason it def would have gave more profit.

Does it ever seem like Tom Morga is the "forgotten" Jason in the franchise?

ThePunisher wrote:

Jason Voorhees wrote:Part V def gave more rise to the whole "Copy-Cat" sub-genre just look at my Bloody Valentines from 1981, and then also look at Scream.

For me if you gonna give us three films (Part 2-4) with a definitive killer and then give us a copycat ofcourse it's gonna do very badly and that's why it's having a cult following now OR that people don't like Jason and view Roy as a "Superior" character.

But overall and given fact that if it was Tom Morga as Jason it def would have gave more profit.

Does it ever seem like Tom Morga is the "forgotten" Jason in the franchise?

I feel he is because they could have definitely gave us a supernatural Friday the 13th by making Jason a Slasher Ghost or something anything without a Copy Cat underline.

Jason Voorhees wrote:

ThePunisher wrote:

Jason Voorhees wrote:Part V def gave more rise to the whole "Copy-Cat" sub-genre just look at my Bloody Valentines from 1981, and then also look at Scream.

For me if you gonna give us three films (Part 2-4) with a definitive killer and then give us a copycat ofcourse it's gonna do very badly and that's why it's having a cult following now OR that people don't like Jason and view Roy as a "Superior" character.

But overall and given fact that if it was Tom Morga as Jason it def would have gave more profit.

Does it ever seem like Tom Morga is the "forgotten" Jason in the franchise?

I feel he is because they could have definitely gave us a supernatural Friday the 13th by making Jason a Slasher Ghost or something anything without a Copy Cat underline.

And the residents of Crystal Lake would still fear Jason Voorhees: is he dead or not?

ThePunisher wrote:

Jason Voorhees wrote:

ThePunisher wrote:

Jason Voorhees wrote:Part V def gave more rise to the whole "Copy-Cat" sub-genre just look at my Bloody Valentines from 1981, and then also look at Scream.

For me if you gonna give us three films (Part 2-4) with a definitive killer and then give us a copycat ofcourse it's gonna do very badly and that's why it's having a cult following now OR that people don't like Jason and view Roy as a "Superior" character.

But overall and given fact that if it was Tom Morga as Jason it def would have gave more profit.

Does it ever seem like Tom Morga is the "forgotten" Jason in the franchise?

I feel he is because they could have definitely gave us a supernatural Friday the 13th by making Jason a Slasher Ghost or something anything without a Copy Cat underline.

And the residents of Crystal Lake would still fear Jason Voorhees: is he dead or not?

Yes and Part V tried to make Roy looks so powerful but to me he wasn't.

It's very much logical that he used drugs.

It's very much logical that he used drugs. [/quote]

Well he probably stole whatever cocaine Billy had on him.

CaldoTheKid wrote:

It's very much logical that he used drugs.

Well he probably stole whatever cocaine Billy had on him.[/quote]

Or Roy stole drugs from his job. Hey, he must have had access to ALL KINDS of drugs due to his job.

CaldoTheKid wrote:

Jason Voorhees wrote:It's very much logical that he used drugs.

Well he probably stole whatever cocaine Billy had on him.

Honestly yeah because no way Roy should be as or near the level Jason ever was.

A father's rage is a father's rage. If it gave Pamela the strength to pull off her killing spree, why not Roy?

SonofOdin6039 wrote:A father's rage is a father's rage. If it gave Pamela the strength to pull off her killing spree, why not Roy?

Oh! no disagreements here about a father's rage BUT Pamela never copied someone else, Pamela was her own killer with her own identity, but Roy Burns had decided to copy the MO of someone else to try to pin up on someone else, for me? that's just lazy which I'll explain under a different Header BUT this is is why Part V was either boo'd, hated, or loved but loved my a rare amount of fans because if you gonna show a guy in a Hockey Mask and etc then people would assume it's Jason or those new to the Friday the 13th series would assume it's Jason and once it turns out it's an imposter it will generally generate a lot of negative feedbacks.


I know people would love an "Imposter" storyline for a movie but for me it's generic...its not hard to do once someone somehow uses some from the original or mimic the costume and I know someone is gonna mention "Scream" but the Scream franchise isn't just a definitive solo like Killer Jason/Michael its a pair of killers its something where someone new can be that identify without it being a legitimate solo Legacy.